it looks horrible

Fax and Scan looks horrible, I had to close it immediately, that UI needs a refresher course. -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

I reckon you could do a much better job Andre - I challenge you to do a mockup of what you'd like to see it as (Glass and all!!) and post it here :op
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa" wrote in message

Fax and Scan looks horrible, I had to close it immediately, that UI needs a refresher course. -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

We're aware of the problems with the current UI of the Windows Fax and Scan application. We've been giving it a fresh paint job and a tuneup over the past few weeks and you can expect to see significant improvement in the Beta 2 release. If you have specific suggestions or concerns, we'd definitely be interested in hearing them, and we'd love to see anyone rising to Zack's challenge and providing a mockup of what they would like to see.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

I reckon you could do a much better job Andre - I challenge you to do a mockup of what you'd like to see it as (Glass and all!!) and post it here :op
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa" wrote in message Fax and Scan looks horrible, I had to close it immediately, that UI needs a refresher course. -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

If we were to submit some ideas, would they go towards the final Windows Fax and Scan application UI? :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Paul Bartholomew [MSFT]" <paulbart AT online DOT Microsoft DOT com> wrote in message

We're aware of the problems with the current UI of the Windows Fax and Scan application. We've been giving it a fresh paint job and a tuneup over the past few weeks and you can expect to see significant improvement in the Beta 2 release. If you have specific suggestions or concerns, we'd definitely be interested in hearing them, and we'd love to see anyone rising to Zack's challenge and providing a mockup of what they would like to see.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I reckon you could do a much better job Andre - I challenge you to do a mockup of what you'd like to see it as (Glass and all!!) and post it here :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa" wrote in message Fax and Scan looks horrible, I had to close it immediately, that UI needs a refresher course. -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

OK I've made one - took me some time but I did it! :op I would upload it here but it's a tad too big, so if you want to check it out (just a design idea), check it out here www.zacknet.co.uk/proofconcept.PNG
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

If we were to submit some ideas, would they go towards the final Windows Fax and Scan application UI? :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Paul Bartholomew [MSFT]" <paulbart AT online DOT Microsoft DOT com> wrote in message We're aware of the problems with the current UI of the Windows Fax and Scan application. We've been giving it a fresh paint job and a tuneup over the past few weeks and you can expect to see significant improvement in the Beta 2 release. If you have specific suggestions or concerns, we'd definitely be interested in hearing them, and we'd love to see anyone rising to Zack's challenge and providing a mockup of what they would like to see.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I reckon you could do a much better job Andre - I challenge you to do a mockup of what you'd like to see it as (Glass and all!!) and post it here :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa" wrote in message Fax and Scan looks horrible, I had to close it immediately, that UI needs a refresher course. -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

I will go with Zacks design, Zack, lose the glow around the words though. Possibly could you make those into Tabbed buttons? -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta FAQ for MS AntiSpy http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
"Paul Bartholomew [MSFT]" <paulbart AT online DOT Microsoft DOT com> wrote in message

We're aware of the problems with the current UI of the Windows Fax and Scan application. We've been giving it a fresh paint job and a tuneup over the past few weeks and you can expect to see significant improvement in the Beta 2 release. If you have specific suggestions or concerns, we'd definitely be interested in hearing them, and we'd love to see anyone rising to Zack's challenge and providing a mockup of what they would like to see.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I reckon you could do a much better job Andre - I challenge you to do a mockup of what you'd like to see it as (Glass and all!!) and post it here :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa" wrote in message Fax and Scan looks horrible, I had to close it immediately, that UI needs a refresher course. -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

I have to say that that is an interesting direction. I assume the items along the toolbar row under the menu bar are essentially tabs that when clicked on would change what is displayed in the main window beneath? Is the bar to the right only for searching? Or would clicking on one of those glowing items also affect the view?
Thanks for doing this. It's great getting this kind of feedback, even if it's to tell us how horrible we are. :-) I'll be looking forward to your comments when you get the Beta 2 update. -- Paul Bartholomew Microsoft Digital Documents Team
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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

OK I've made one - took me some time but I did it! :op I would upload it here but it's a tad too big, so if you want to check it out (just a design idea), check it out here www.zacknet.co.uk/proofconcept.PNG
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message If we were to submit some ideas, would they go towards the final Windows Fax and Scan application UI? :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Paul Bartholomew [MSFT]" <paulbart AT online DOT Microsoft DOT com wrote in message We're aware of the problems with the current UI of the Windows Fax and Scan application. We've been giving it a fresh paint job and a tuneup over the past few weeks and you can expect to see significant improvement in the Beta 2 release. If you have specific suggestions or concerns, we'd definitely be interested in hearing them, and we'd love to see anyone rising to Zack's challenge and providing a mockup of what they would like to see.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I reckon you could do a much better job Andre - I challenge you to do a mockup of what you'd like to see it as (Glass and all!!) and post it here :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa" wrote in message Fax and Scan looks horrible, I had to close it immediately, that UI needs a refresher course. -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

Well it's open to suggestion really :o) It was just a rough idea - maybe they could be like in the old Microsoft Outlook... 97 I think, like those little square boxes you get? Well, something similar to that perhaps. Maybe a simple glow, who knows - it's totally up to you (of course!). It was just an idea, hope it helps things along :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Paul Bartholomew [MSFT]" <paulbart AT online DOT Microsoft DOT com> wrote in message

I have to say that that is an interesting direction. I assume the items along the toolbar row under the menu bar are essentially tabs that when clicked on would change what is displayed in the main window beneath? Is the bar to the right only for searching? Or would clicking on one of those glowing items also affect the view?
Thanks for doing this. It's great getting this kind of feedback, even if it's to tell us how horrible we are. :-) I'll be looking forward to your comments when you get the Beta 2 update. -- Paul Bartholomew Microsoft Digital Documents Team
NOTE: My listed e-mail address is not an active e-mail address. Please send all questions and replies to the newsgroup. This posting is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message OK I've made one - took me some time but I did it! :op I would upload it here but it's a tad too big, so if you want to check it out (just a design idea), check it out here www.zacknet.co.uk/proofconcept.PNG
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message If we were to submit some ideas, would they go towards the final Windows Fax and Scan application UI? :o)
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Paul Bartholomew [MSFT]" <paulbart AT online DOT Microsoft DOT com wrote in message We're aware of the problems with the current UI of the Windows Fax and Scan application. We've been giving it a fresh paint job and a tuneup over the past few weeks and you can expect to see significant improvement in the Beta 2 release. If you have specific suggestions or concerns, we'd definitely be interested in hearing them, and we'd love to see anyone rising to Zack's challenge and providing a mockup of what they would like to see.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message I reckon you could do a much better job Andre - I challenge you to do a mockup of what you'd like to see it as (Glass and all!!) and post it here :op
-- Zack Whittaker Microsoft Beta (Windows Server R2 Beta Mentor) » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk » MSBlog on ResDev: http://msblog.resdev.net » ZackNET Forum: www.zacknet.co.uk/forum » VistaBase: www.zacknet.co.uk/vistabase » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa" wrote in message Fax and Scan looks horrible, I had to close it immediately, that UI needs a refresher course. -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta